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Post by ray on Jan 10, 2020 8:23:02 GMT
Just read the update on the TGC page. Made me wonder how many guys use a less than 100% swing on full swings for distance control, and how many (if any) play it like I do and always go for 100% on everything apart from chips.
My theory is that I struggle with tempo anyway, so just want to have one swing to reproduce - and that there’s only a 10m gap between clubs so if I hit it how I want I shouldn’t be more than 5m away.
Just curious...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 12:22:49 GMT
Just read the update on the TGC page. Made me wonder how many guys use a less than 100% swing on full swings for distance control, and how many (if any) play it like I do and always go for 100% on everything apart from chips. My theory is that I struggle with tempo anyway, so just want to have one swing to reproduce - and that there’s only a 10m gap between clubs so if I hit it how I want I shouldn’t be more than 5m away. Just curious... Speaking for the gals...probably am the only one here, I'm like you: 100% all the time. I've tried hitting 80-90% shots on practice range, and it works. But when I try in a tournament, total disaster. Seriously considering getting rid of LW and getting a club between 194 to 214 yds. |
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Post by LKeet6 on Jan 10, 2020 12:52:37 GMT
Just read the update on the TGC page. Made me wonder how many guys use a less than 100% swing on full swings for distance control, and how many (if any) play it like I do and always go for 100% on everything apart from chips. My theory is that I struggle with tempo anyway, so just want to have one swing to reproduce - and that there’s only a 10m gap between clubs so if I hit it how I want I shouldn’t be more than 5m away. Just curious... Seriously considering getting rid of LW and getting a club between 194 to 214 yds. I've wondered about this too. Going between 183 and 203 is the one for me. Comes up fairly often... But short play comes up ALL the time. I think I need the complete range for that, so I always decide against changing. |
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 10, 2020 13:00:25 GMT
The easiest partial shots to pull off is the 95% it is just learning where to transfer from a near full backswing to your downswing.
I tend to use 95% and 90% more on 150 yards and less as there is more risk with longer irons. The key is course management on USE, I like to try leave roughly 100 to 110 yards on lay ups. If you can start to pull off those 95% shots it does feel like you have another wedge in the bag.
I don't tend to use it for tucked away pins, but pins centre green it is not a risk shot for me as my tempo is good on this game.
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Post by ray on Jan 10, 2020 13:11:05 GMT
I’m considerably more likely to have an off tempo swing on short irons than longer irons or woods, so I’ll leave myself a pitch if I can rather than 100 out. If I have to lay up I’ll normally work on 120m if I can.
Not sure what distances these go in yards, but I carry D, 4w, 3i - LW. I hit driver off the deck in place of a 2 or 3w. I find the gap from 4w to 3i isn’t too bad because of the extra rollout. It’s a 10m gap for me like most gaps.
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 10, 2020 13:29:56 GMT
I have 3W then 2i, 4i up to LW including a GW. The irons in the game are much easier to hit out of rough so you're better off with just the 1 fairway wood. Same with hybrids, terrible out of the rough for some reason.
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Post by ray on Jan 10, 2020 13:32:00 GMT
Hybrids are for old folk. When I can’t hit my 2i IRL I’ll start using hybrids in video games lol. I find 3w and driver off the deck go similar distance, driver just doesn’t carry as far.
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 10, 2020 13:40:53 GMT
Hybrids are for old folk. When I can’t hit my 2i IRL I’ll start using hybrids in video games lol. I find 3w and driver off the deck go similar distance, driver just doesn’t carry as far. I hit my 4 iron in real life much better than my hybrid. But the benifit of hybrids is they are better than long irons out of the rough and go further from out of the rough. I tend to go no lower than a 6 iron when in medium to long rough irl so my 3 hybrid rarely leaves my bag as I can hit my 5 wood just as well as it. |
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Post by ray on Jan 10, 2020 13:57:17 GMT
I suspect Australian rough isn’t like the rough you play out of. On my home course you’re just as likely to get a bare lie in the rough as a bushy one. 9 months of the year anyway. IRL I’ve a driver that I hit off the deck as well, a 5w, 2i - SW, no lob or GW and a putter that behaves like me on the other forum - poorly lol.
You need to add to the description that we have a Ray and they don’t lol. I’m sure that’ll bring them flooding in 🤣
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Post by stoneysooner on Jan 10, 2020 14:09:02 GMT
The easiest partial shots to pull off is the 95% it is just learning where to transfer from a near full backswing to your downswing. I tend to use 95% and 90% more on 150 yards and less as there is more risk with longer irons. The key is course management on USE, I like to try leave roughly 100 to 110 yards on lay ups. If you can start to pull off those 95% shots it does feel like you have another wedge in the bag. I don't tend to use it for tucked away pins, but pins centre green it is not a risk shot for me as my tempo is good on this game. This is the strategy that I use. I will use it up and down the bag, and have even used 95% swing with a driver on a fairway that might run out on me, but wanted more distance than the 2W would give me. I also know that I can get a few more yards with the perfect/fast, but that is super risky as the draw can be pretty extreme with most clubs. Many times it isn't worth the risk, and I just play to the center and hope for a 25 foot putt. |
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Post by ray on Jan 10, 2020 14:10:12 GMT
Also didn’t know pro clubs were allowed. Does anyone object if I use them for next weeks event to see if I can (try to) get up amongst the PS folk? My justification is that we xb folk have a disadvantage with tempo, and I’d rather it be with distance.
If anyone objects, I won’t do it. Particularly XB folk.
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Post by andersnm on Jan 10, 2020 14:32:22 GMT
I’m considerably more likely to have an off tempo swing on short irons than longer irons or woods, so I’ll leave myself a pitch if I can rather than 100 out. If I have to lay up I’ll normally work on 120m if I can. Not sure what distances these go in yards, but I carry D, 4w, 3i - LW. I hit driver off the deck in place of a 2 or 3w. I find the gap from 4w to 3i isn’t too bad because of the extra rollout. It’s a 10m gap for me like most gaps. I don't use driver on the fairway. I consider this to be unrealistic implemented in the game (way too much carry imho) and is very rarely used on tour. Bubba Watson on Katalua is perhaps the most famous. So I have the same setup in the bag as I have in my own bag: Driver, 3w, 3-Lw. For me, I have never been a fan of hybrids in my own game. It is perhaps the angle I get on the ball in the rough, but for me an iron has always been better than a hybrid or a wood also out of rough. |
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 10, 2020 16:24:44 GMT
Also didn’t know pro clubs were allowed. Does anyone object if I use them for next weeks event to see if I can (try to) get up amongst the PS folk? My justification is that we xb folk have a disadvantage with tempo, and I’d rather it be with distance. If anyone objects, I won’t do it. Particularly XB folk. When Larry restarted USE multi platform I wanted to make it masters only as I also wanted to make TST masters only when I was admin there. The most important thing for me here is it should be as realistic as possible, I have tested PS4 and it is as hard to hit straight as on PC a little bit easier on the tempo. Would like to hear @sirwade comment on the differences of Xbox vs PS4 also, but one thing I have found is putting is no different from PS4 then PC. My problems with pro vs masters is there is no balancing what so ever, HB did nothing there it's just two difficulty levels with a little distance for compensation. Not sure if anyone remembers here that plays TST, we had a guy that came in from nowhere playing pro clubs one week and won comfortably then disappeared when it was suggested he play masters. Yes we have a difference in yards in the long game but pro's have a much more forgiving accuracy and tempo. Now I could live with that but when it comes to the short game pro clubs are ridiculously overpowered, if it is distance vs accuracy why are the short games not identical in difficulty. The most important criticism of pro's is the putting (which doesn't use tempo) is much easier because it is much easier to hit the putts straight ,that is the biggest problem I have as the putting is the most realistic and challenging part of the game, at least that difficulty is the same for all 3 platforms with master clubs. I am not sure who actually plays pro clubs(I know everbody on pc plays master clubs) and its players on PC like polekatt/josia and chipsforaces that I have huge respect for that are always fighting with their game and keep trying to improve it week after week but stick to the toughest difficulty. Btw Ray as your -15 last week showed you are way too good for the junior clubs anyway  and tbh you would not be legitimately beating your fellow Xboxers each week using them imo. If I could I would have all 3 platforms playing Xbox masters tempo difficulty as it is the most challenging. |
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Jan 10, 2020 17:42:09 GMT
FWIW, I am a master club user on XB from the beginning with TGC2019.. after a good season and a half on the main tours, I finally feel like I have some control over the clubs - but this USE format will take me some getting used to - specifically where I need to try and shape my shots without using the loft box..
Started this week off decent - with a -6 after 2, then gave a few back.
I believe I finished -4 overall if I remember correctly..
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 10, 2020 18:33:42 GMT
FWIW, I am a master club user on XB from the beginning with TGC2019.. after a good season and a half on the main tours, I finally feel like I have some control over the clubs - but this USE format will take me some getting used to - specifically where I need to try and shape my shots without using the loft box.. Started this week off decent - with a -6 after 2, then gave a few back. I believe I finished -4 overall if I remember correctly.. "I finally feel I have some control" sums up how a golf game should be to me 👍 |
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and tbh you would not be legitimately beating your fellow Xboxers each week using them imo. If I could I would have all 3 platforms playing Xbox masters tempo difficulty as it is the most challenging.
