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Post by hammers1man on Mar 19, 2020 11:22:43 GMT
all 4 rounds destroyed me especially round 4, You will find me in the club house totally legless crying for my mummy LOL   Your spirit has inspired me to finish my rounds  Since you set the brutal conditions this week, I think you have an obligation to Leon. 😜 |
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 19, 2020 11:48:14 GMT
Your spirit has inspired me to finish my rounds Since you set the brutal conditions this week, I think you have an obligation to Leon. 😜 Haha! Now THAT is a fair comment. And I won't even complain, how about that?!  Edit: tbf, it's the greens that are killing everyone, right, and I left those on default... |
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Post by ray on Mar 19, 2020 11:51:45 GMT
That’s why I’m pushing for the 10 shot penalty. Once bitten, twice shy is the plan 👌🏻
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Post by hammers1man on Mar 19, 2020 12:28:39 GMT
Since you set the brutal conditions this week, I think you have an obligation to Leon. 😜 Haha! Now THAT is a fair comment. And I won't even complain, how about that?! Edit: tbf, it's the greens that are killing everyone, right, and I left those on default... Yes some of the pin placements don't suit very fast greens. Really nice course but some iffy pin placements on actual slopes for my liking. |
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 19, 2020 12:35:09 GMT
Haha! Now THAT is a fair comment. And I won't even complain, how about that?! Edit: tbf, it's the greens that are killing everyone, right, and I left those on default... Yes some of the pin placements don't suit very fast greens. Really nice course but some iffy pin placements on actual slopes for my liking. I'll say again, I've scored very low on this course before. Not sure exactly what I scored, but I'd say at least -5 to -8. But yeah, on USE, it's taken it over that boundary into very tough. I'm still learning rangering, and 1 round probably wasn't enough. Maybe on v fast greens, we could make them softer in future? Or actually slow them down? |
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Post by gavlaar124 on Mar 19, 2020 12:46:05 GMT
Not your fault this week Leon ... Like I said earlier it's bad design setting the greens this fast for the slopes on there. And for future reference there's nothing wrong with slowing greens down its when they're sped up above default that can cause problems
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Post by hammers1man on Mar 19, 2020 12:47:27 GMT
Yes some of the pin placements don't suit very fast greens. Really nice course but some iffy pin placements on actual slopes for my liking. I'll say again, I've scored very low on this course before. Not sure exactly what I scored, but I'd say at least -5 to -8. But yeah, on USE, it's taken it over that boundary into very tough. I'm still learning rangering, and 1 round probably wasn't enough. Maybe on v fast greens, we could make them softer in future? Or actually slow them down? Yes, the problem is on USE we can't put high spin on our chip shots or pull the putting marker right back on severe downhill putts. So those greens would be alot easier on TST. Saying that some great scoring this week 😁 |
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Post by andersnm on Mar 19, 2020 13:04:40 GMT
Not your fault this week Leon ... Like I said earlier it's bad design setting the greens this fast for the slopes on there. And for future reference there's nothing wrong with slowing greens down its when they're sped up above default that can cause problems There has been, and there will be bad pins. If the pins in general are fair but tough, that is imo okay. I think we have a nice mix of easy and difficult both in courses and conditions. So you have undulating greens, that means you need to be more careful on your approach and not get those nasty downhill putts. Or, take the penalty for missing wrong on the greens. Perhaps it is better to leave it short for a chip uphill and go for the par. That is course management. The thing we need to be careful of, is when things get unfair - if greens in general are too fast and a ball will not stay inside 3-5 feet of the cup. Like for instance, you putt uphill and leave the ball either short, long or to the side in a circle of 3-5 feet, that ball should not come back down again. In real life, there is a rule of thumb to have gentle slope inside 3 feet of the cup - that is a lot less than the 9 box rule that TGC tours use. The thing is, that if your ball comes to rest inside this circle, the ball should not move. As I said, there will come occasional bad pins - but it should be rare. As we play courses from a lot of designers, the default settings may not be the right for every pin set, but again - I think this is rare, and so long as the greens are fair, but tough - that is nothing to avoid all the time. |
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Post by stoneysooner on Mar 19, 2020 13:05:27 GMT
I am firmly in the camp of not enjoying this event. I finished, and proud that I didn't bring out the driver on the 72nd green. I did damage the hole with my putter by ramming 6 putts into the back of the hole from two sides while getting my frustration out though. Score is irrelevant this week. Course was actually really fun, and I hit the ball pretty good. Next week is sure to be better!
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 19, 2020 13:13:18 GMT
I'll say again, I've scored very low on this course before. Not sure exactly what I scored, but I'd say at least -5 to -8. But yeah, on USE, it's taken it over that boundary into very tough. I'm still learning rangering, and 1 round probably wasn't enough. Maybe on v fast greens, we could make them softer in future? Or actually slow them down? Yes, the problem is on USE we can't put high spin on our chip shots or pull the putting marker right back on severe downhill putts. So those greens would be alot easier on TST. Saying that some great scoring this week 😁 I've been wondering again about the putting marker this week. Does it affect power then?? I remembered reading something I didn't quite understand ages ago and just forgot about it. Suffice to say, I never use it 😂 |
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 19, 2020 13:14:40 GMT
Not your fault this week Leon ... Like I said earlier it's bad design setting the greens this fast for the slopes on there. And for future reference there's nothing wrong with slowing greens down its when they're sped up above default that can cause problems Thanks mate. Like I said, I'm not used to rangering, so don't take these things into account. I'm reluctant to make big changes, but will start bearing these things in mind. As we all will, I'm sure... |
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Post by andersnm on Mar 19, 2020 13:18:56 GMT
Yes, the problem is on USE we can't put high spin on our chip shots or pull the putting marker right back on severe downhill putts. So those greens would be alot easier on TST. Saying that some great scoring this week 😁 I've been wondering again about the putting marker this week. Does it affect power then?? I remembered reading something I didn't quite understand ages ago and just forgot about it. Suffice to say, I never use it 😂 The putting marker will give you more forgiveness, but you still need to feel for speed on the greens. So if you hit too hard or soft, the marker is your intent, and so the game will give you some forgiveness for your error compared to your intent. |
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Post by hammers1man on Mar 19, 2020 13:34:36 GMT
With marker only you could pull the putting marker back to 3 foot on a severe 1 ft downhiller and swing alot harder than with no marker. With no marker you literally have to get them rolling and they don't stop sometimes.
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Post by LKeet6 on Mar 19, 2020 14:04:39 GMT
With marker only you could pull the putting marker back to 3 foot on a severe 1 ft downhiller and swing alot harder than with no marker. With no marker you literally have to get them rolling and they don't stop sometimes. Right, I thought that was basically it. Not sure I want to get started on changing to that. Just another thing to go wrong 😂 |
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Post by ray on Mar 19, 2020 15:00:57 GMT
-1 second round with the pro clubs, then -1 3rd round with Masters. Make of that what you will.
I think the course is short enough it would be eaten up with aim cam and grids and loft box etc on. Although the greens are slippery, once you’ve adjusted they’re playable. I like our settings.
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