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Post by andersnm on Aug 24, 2020 21:01:23 GMT
I feel like HB has really messed up the short game with these shot types. I have yet to find the right combination that comes close to replicating the old punch shot. What about flops out of bunkers instead of splashes, especially out of longer greenside bunkers (30 yds or more)? Any update on flop shots? My take on this is simple. A flop out of sand is not easy, so if you are in a distance that is too far for a splash shot, I would play a pitch shot in real life - and also in the game. There is no exception for this actually, because if you are close enough for a flop, you play the explosive bunker shot and not flop to get the ball high and soft. I think like Paul that the pitch is so good in the game, that there is no need for unrealistic flop shots. I also can't understand why they removed the punch shot. I have not fiddled so much with this, because I have yet even on Harbour Town been in many situations for punch shots. So perhaps Paul can be more helpful. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Aug 25, 2020 10:00:17 GMT
I feel like HB has really messed up the short game with these shot types. I have yet to find the right combination that comes close to replicating the old punch shot. What about flops out of bunkers instead of splashes, especially out of longer greenside bunkers (30 yds or more)? Any update on flop shots? Unfortunately the lack of punch shot is difficult but I find it you select a 4/5 iron and then go to true shot and put left stick all the way forward and right stick all the way back will lower loft and steeping swing but it still doesn't keep it as low as a punch so you may need to set up a pitch shot with one of these clubs and manipulate the true shot the same way - I'm still trying myself to find an answer as I'm in the trees lots now! |
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Post by al on Aug 25, 2020 10:56:11 GMT
Update when you know for sure, I’m in the trees a fair bit. 😀
Could have sworn that moving the right stick to + lowered the loft when I was on driving range. Can’t remember which way round it is for the left stick part - shot shaper/angle of attack part.
I think I put the ball arc on and used that to figure it out, forgotten now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 11:14:32 GMT
Update when you know for sure, I’m in the trees a fair bit. 😀 Could have sworn that moving the right stick to + lowered the loft when I was on driving range. Can’t remember which way round it is for the left stick part - shot shaper/angle of attack part. I think I put the ball arc on and used that to figure it out, forgotten now. I was on the driving range last night in the lessons. To loft the club up John said to pull the left stick down and pull the right stick down for more spin. To punch I would think both sticks should go up. I will double check. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 11:55:41 GMT
Are there any definitive posted settings we should be using with Master difficulty? I wanted try some play now games with settings we think we will be using in the society. I know it's still early but trying to get some practice rounds in.
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Post by hammers1man on Aug 25, 2020 13:31:12 GMT
Update when you know for sure, I’m in the trees a fair bit. 😀 Could have sworn that moving the right stick to + lowered the loft when I was on driving range. Can’t remember which way round it is for the left stick part - shot shaper/angle of attack part. I think I put the ball arc on and used that to figure it out, forgotten now. I was on the driving range last night in the lessons. To loft the club up John said to pull the left stick down and pull the right stick down for more spin. To punch I would think both sticks should go up. I will double check. that's right punch shot push forward to lower ball trajectory. Back towards you puts more hight on the ball and the right slider is more spin. |
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Post by mcbogga on Aug 27, 2020 7:49:42 GMT
Doesn’t the flop actually run out more than a pitch now?
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Post by hammers1man on Aug 27, 2020 9:02:47 GMT
Haven't hit a flop yet, will try it in the practice area later.
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Post by mcbogga on Aug 27, 2020 11:01:04 GMT
Haven't hit a flop yet, will try it in the practice area later. Its such a wierd name and implementation... Short game is still a weakness in the TGC franchise. I think game makers get it wrong. Probably better to conceptualize a golf game as four different mini games. Driving, Approach play, short game and putting. That is pretty much how at least I break down real golf. No golf game ever has spent any serious time on the most intricate part of golf - the short game. |
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Post by andersnm on Aug 30, 2020 22:02:42 GMT
I have updated the rules - so please comment if there is anything that you feel either are wrong, or missing.
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Post by mcbogga on Sept 6, 2020 19:21:41 GMT
How about no pitching outside 100 yds? It’s another unrealistic shot HB put into the game. Maybe not executing a more pitch style shot from 115 yds, but certainly doing it with an 8 Iron....
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Post by hammers1man on Sept 6, 2020 19:45:06 GMT
How about no pitching outside 100 yds? It’s another unrealistic shot HB put into the game. Maybe not executing a more pitch style shot from 115 yds, but certainly doing it with an 8 Iron.... Is that an advantage though? , give me a full SW or GW from that distance any day. Much more spin and control. |
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Post by andersnm on Sept 6, 2020 20:17:01 GMT
How about no pitching outside 100 yds? It’s another unrealistic shot HB put into the game. Maybe not executing a more pitch style shot from 115 yds, but certainly doing it with an 8 Iron.... Is that an advantage though? , give me a full SW or GW from that distance any day. Much more spin and control. I do not think we should focus on what gives advantage or not - but what is realistic. The fact that HB removed the punch shot is giving me pause on this one - because I think I want to have a pitch with the 5 iron and delofting it to create a punch shot. |
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Post by hammers1man on Sept 6, 2020 20:29:34 GMT
Is that an advantage though? , give me a full SW or GW from that distance any day. Much more spin and control. I do not think we should focus on what gives advantage or not - but what is realistic. The fact that HB removed the punch shot is giving me pause on this one - because I think I want to have a pitch with the 5 iron and delofting it to create a punch shot. We do have a problem with pitch from short distances of 30 to 50 foot, it is near on impossible to gauge distance because it's all in the 90% + of the swing. |
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Post by jeff on Sept 7, 2020 0:09:54 GMT
I do not think we should focus on what gives advantage or not - but what is realistic. The fact that HB removed the punch shot is giving me pause on this one - because I think I want to have a pitch with the 5 iron and delofting it to create a punch shot. We do have a problem with pitch from short distances of 30 to 50 foot, it is near on impossible to gauge distance because it's all in the 90% + of the swing. But I love that! Partial pitches required near the green from the fairway or rough? Brilliant! I expect it will produce a realistic dispersion for even the best players. |
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