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Post by LKeet6 on Apr 7, 2020 22:29:31 GMT
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Post by ray on Apr 8, 2020 1:43:06 GMT
The horrific thing is that it doesn’t seem to matter what he does, there’s no oversight and no consequences. They’re not in danger of becoming a dictatorship, it’s already happened. Let’s see if they realise when they (maybe) get to vote.
At this point it doesn’t matter what the media reports, which is why he’s treating them like dirt. I can’t believe the media are giving him the oxygen to kill them by televising his daily rally/updates instead of summarising them and reporting the facts.
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Post by ray on Apr 8, 2020 1:46:25 GMT
Also - if I wasn’t already banned from TGCForums, I would definitely be now with the CoronaVirus thread. I’m still saying Paul is a friend because we haven’t spoken in months, but I’d have butted heads pretty hard with him over there. He always assumes a position of authority with little education in the subject and hearsay.
Classic Paul lol.
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Post by LKeet6 on Apr 8, 2020 9:01:10 GMT
Also - if I wasn’t already banned from TGCForums, I would definitely be now with the CoronaVirus thread. I’m still saying Paul is a friend because we haven’t spoken in months, but I’d have butted heads pretty hard with him over there. He always assumes a position of authority with little education in the subject and hearsay. Classic Paul lol. I'm going to have to have a break. I've got into the same sort of position you often did, where all I'm really doing is defending myself, responding to people who have come at me, but because I'm typing loads of comments, I get treated like the "bad guy." (I haven't gone to the lengths you sometimes have tho ) Virt called me out for no reason, unprovoked, I defended myself, he kept coming back at me, and I got the blame for not dropping it. I respect what you're saying about FRSTDWN, but I just think he's a complete dick. It's not just his opinions I can't stand, he's a terrible debater, forgets things, ignores things, and like you say tries to speak authoritatively, but really has very little to say.
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Post by ray on Apr 8, 2020 9:47:58 GMT
Also - if I wasn’t already banned from TGCForums, I would definitely be now with the CoronaVirus thread. I’m still saying Paul is a friend because we haven’t spoken in months, but I’d have butted heads pretty hard with him over there. He always assumes a position of authority with little education in the subject and hearsay. Classic Paul lol. I'm going to have to have a break. I've got into the same sort of position you often did, where all I'm really doing is defending myself, responding to people who have come at me, but because I'm typing loads of comments, I get treated like the "bad guy." (I haven't gone to the lengths you sometimes have tho ) Virt called me out for no reason, unprovoked, I defended myself, he kept coming back at me, and I got the blame for not dropping it. I respect what you're saying about FRSTDWN, but I just think he's a complete dick. It's not just his opinions I can't stand, he's a terrible debater, forgets things, ignores things, and like you say tries to speak authoritatively, but really has very little to say. I agree for the most part. My final ban was for pointing out that the selection rules weren’t being followed for the Presidents Cup, and was 100% in the right. Right and wrong doesn’t matter in a forum from my experience, might (numbers) is right.
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Post by LKeet6 on Apr 8, 2020 9:58:21 GMT
I'm going to have to have a break. I've got into the same sort of position you often did, where all I'm really doing is defending myself, responding to people who have come at me, but because I'm typing loads of comments, I get treated like the "bad guy." (I haven't gone to the lengths you sometimes have tho ) Virt called me out for no reason, unprovoked, I defended myself, he kept coming back at me, and I got the blame for not dropping it. I respect what you're saying about FRSTDWN, but I just think he's a complete dick. It's not just his opinions I can't stand, he's a terrible debater, forgets things, ignores things, and like you say tries to speak authoritatively, but really has very little to say. I agree for the most part. My final ban was for pointing out that the selection rules weren’t being followed for the Presidents Cup, and was 100% in the right. Right and wrong doesn’t matter in a forum from my experience, might (numbers) is right. Yeah, I mostly agree with you too. I think when you spot a wrong thing, you can go a bit black and white with it. I think we know each other well enough by now that I can say that. And honestly I have a similar issue! I think you're right that there are little cliques in that place, but I don't think it's as deliberate as you maybe think. But yeah, you were right about that selection thing, and they did "gang up" on you about it. But after the first 2-3 comments, it stops really mattering who's right, doesn't it. Anyway, in that argument yesterday with those two, not a single thing was said about the other 2 being off topic and keeping the argument going, (for a LONG time!) and I was singled out a few times for "why didn't you stop?" Why should I stop if someone's talking shit about me?!
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Post by andersnm on Apr 8, 2020 10:15:52 GMT
Trump considering stopping economic support for WHO - he claims WHO is to blame that the pandemic was not stopped (ie. to blame for the situation in USA..)
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Post by ray on Apr 8, 2020 11:42:15 GMT
He’ll blame whoever he can. It’s like he said, he takes no responsibility.
He was right when he said he could shoot someone and not lose supporters - his supporters are proving that’s true even when it’s thousands of deaths that could have been avoided with adequate people in charge.
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Post by ray on Apr 8, 2020 11:44:55 GMT
I agree for the most part. My final ban was for pointing out that the selection rules weren’t being followed for the Presidents Cup, and was 100% in the right. Right and wrong doesn’t matter in a forum from my experience, might (numbers) is right. Yeah, I mostly agree with you too. I think when you spot a wrong thing, you can go a bit black and white with it. I think we know each other well enough by now that I can say that. And honestly I have a similar issue! I think you're right that there are little cliques in that place, but I don't think it's as deliberate as you maybe think. But yeah, you were right about that selection thing, and they did "gang up" on you about it. But after the first 2-3 comments, it stops really mattering who's right, doesn't it. Anyway, in that argument yesterday with those two, not a single thing was said about the other 2 being off topic and keeping the argument going, (for a LONG time!) and I was singled out a few times for "why didn't you stop?" Why should I stop if someone's talking shit about me?! The only explanation I have is that it would have been pointless to engage the other side, you see reason. It’s easy to give advice when you’re not the one in the heat of it, less easy to ease up when you are.
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Post by LKeet6 on Apr 8, 2020 12:14:02 GMT
Yeah, I mostly agree with you too. I think when you spot a wrong thing, you can go a bit black and white with it. I think we know each other well enough by now that I can say that. And honestly I have a similar issue! I think you're right that there are little cliques in that place, but I don't think it's as deliberate as you maybe think. But yeah, you were right about that selection thing, and they did "gang up" on you about it. But after the first 2-3 comments, it stops really mattering who's right, doesn't it. Anyway, in that argument yesterday with those two, not a single thing was said about the other 2 being off topic and keeping the argument going, (for a LONG time!) and I was singled out a few times for "why didn't you stop?" Why should I stop if someone's talking shit about me?! The only explanation I have is that it would have been pointless to engage the other side, you see reason. It’s easy to give advice when you’re not the one in the heat of it, less easy to ease up when you are. Definitely. That's why, as hard headed as I am, I always listen to other people. And the reason I like you is because I feel you've always considered the things I say to you 👍
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Post by ray on Apr 17, 2020 13:42:01 GMT
The only explanation I have is that it would have been pointless to engage the other side, you see reason. It’s easy to give advice when you’re not the one in the heat of it, less easy to ease up when you are. Definitely. That's why, as hard headed as I am, I always listen to other people. And the reason I like you is because I feel you've always considered the things I say to you 👍 You did well to stay out of it for so long lol. Do me a favour. Post the following. Ray says Jimmy is right on pretty much everything and Paul shouldn’t drink and talk about stuff he doesn’t know about. Listen to Jacko, Leon, and Cliffs, and the world will be a better place...
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Post by LKeet6 on Apr 17, 2020 14:09:53 GMT
Definitely. That's why, as hard headed as I am, I always listen to other people. And the reason I like you is because I feel you've always considered the things I say to you 👍 You did well to stay out of it for so long lol. Do me a favour. Post the following. Ray says Jimmy is right on pretty much everything and Paul shouldn’t drink and talk about stuff he doesn’t know about. Listen to Jacko, Leon, and Cliffs, and the world will be a better place... Done 😂
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Post by LKeet6 on Apr 17, 2020 17:03:03 GMT
Definitely. That's why, as hard headed as I am, I always listen to other people. And the reason I like you is because I feel you've always considered the things I say to you 👍 You did well to stay out of it for so long lol. Do me a favour. Post the following. Ray says Jimmy is right on pretty much everything and Paul shouldn’t drink and talk about stuff he doesn’t know about. Listen to Jacko, Leon, and Cliffs, and the world will be a better place... Jacko and Jimmy send their best 🙂👍
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Post by ray on Apr 17, 2020 23:34:43 GMT
Thanks mate.
Convo has moved on a bit with your input, well done 👍
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Post by ray on Apr 18, 2020 2:40:36 GMT
It’s interesting to me that the people who want the lockdowns lifted and are happy to sacrifice the old talk about ‘freedom’.
It’s the freedom those old people fought for when they were young and were asked to sacrifice for the old. Now they’re old they’re expected to sacrifice for the young?? Fuck that.
People are being asked to do almost nothing to contribute. They aren’t being asked to go to a foreign country to fight in a war because their country asked it of them. These people are weak. They don’t understand hardship.
Also, what ‘freedom’ does America have that we don’t have in Australia, or in Canada, or even in the UK where you have a tyrannical queen lol.
The republicans are playing to the dumb, and it’s working.
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