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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 10, 2020 23:40:57 GMT
Hi all,
Looking at upgrading my PC for designing and possibly playing purposes, currently have a Dell Inspiron which I also use for work and pretty sure it’s got an intel 5 processor and an Nvidia GTX graphics card.
I’m looking at getting either a laptop or a desktop with intel 7 or 9 core and an Nvidia RTX 2070 or 2080 graphics card so my designer doesn’t freeze and overheat all the time.
Any recommendations? As you can probably tell, I’m not that PC literate but I’m trying to make sure I spend my money well.
Any advice gladly received!
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Post by hammers1man on Oct 11, 2020 6:50:11 GMT
Hi all, Looking at upgrading my PC for designing and possibly playing purposes, currently have a Dell Inspiron which I also use for work and pretty sure it’s got an intel 5 processor and an Nvidia GTX graphics card. I’m looking at getting either a laptop or a desktop with intel 7 or 9 core and an Nvidia RTX 2070 or 2080 graphics card so my designer doesn’t freeze and overheat all the time. Any recommendations? As you can probably tell, I’m not that PC literate but I’m trying to make sure I spend my money well. Any advice gladly received! I really recommend waiting a bit as you will get a much better PC for your same budget. The 3080 is twice as fast as a 2080 at a similar price, the founders edition on Nvidia's website is £650. The 3070 is rumoured to be as fast as an 2080 ti (a £1200 card) within a 2070 price rang. Wanted to get a 3080 myself but all the stock has been bough up mainly by bots to sell on. Reading won't be no chance of getting hold of one till 2021. The 2070 and 2080 prices will also shoot down in price when the 3080 and 3070 are freely available, so unless you are desperate for a PC right now it is in your best interest to wait a bit. Also the new Ryzen 3 5000 CPU's are released on the 5th November and will be faster than current Intel CPU's for gaming. I have a 12 core Ryzen 9 3900x, bit of overkill but I love it. In your circumstances a PC build with a RTX 3070 and a Ryzen 7 5800x will be a seriously good gaming PC for an absolutely amazing price. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 11, 2020 7:59:18 GMT
Hi all, Looking at upgrading my PC for designing and possibly playing purposes, currently have a Dell Inspiron which I also use for work and pretty sure it’s got an intel 5 processor and an Nvidia GTX graphics card. I’m looking at getting either a laptop or a desktop with intel 7 or 9 core and an Nvidia RTX 2070 or 2080 graphics card so my designer doesn’t freeze and overheat all the time. Any recommendations? As you can probably tell, I’m not that PC literate but I’m trying to make sure I spend my money well. Any advice gladly received! I really recommend waiting a bit as you will get a much better PC for your same budget. The 3080 is twice as fast as a 2080 at a similar price, the founders edition on Nvidia's website is £650. The 3070 is rumoured to be as fast as an 2080 ti (a £1200 card) within a 2070 price rang. Wanted to get a 3080 myself but all the stock has been bough up mainly by bots to sell on. Reading won't be no chance of getting hold of one till 2021. The 2070 and 2080 prices will also shoot down in price when the 3080 and 3070 are freely available, so unless you are desperate for a PC right now it is in your best interest to wait a bit. Also the new Ryzen 3 5000 CPU's are released on the 5th November and will be faster than current Intel CPU's for gaming. I have a 12 core Ryzen 9 3900x, bit of overkill but I love it. In your circumstances a PC build with a RTX 3070 and a Ryzen 7 5800x will be a seriously good gaming PC for an absolutely amazing price. Thanks Paul, that really is excellent advice, I’m definitely going to wait till the Black Friday deals anyway, I’m probably leaning towards a gaming laptop just because of the mobile element and I’m pretty much just going to use it for my course design, just want something that can handle the designer better so I can bring you all courses quicker! |
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Post by mcbogga on Oct 11, 2020 10:13:35 GMT
There is always that “next amazing generation” - but this time around the NVIDIA 30 series and the new gen Zens seems to be a jump rarely seen among all the marketing hype....
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 12, 2020 15:54:02 GMT
Hi all, Looking at upgrading my PC for designing and possibly playing purposes, currently have a Dell Inspiron which I also use for work and pretty sure it’s got an intel 5 processor and an Nvidia GTX graphics card. I’m looking at getting either a laptop or a desktop with intel 7 or 9 core and an Nvidia RTX 2070 or 2080 graphics card so my designer doesn’t freeze and overheat all the time. Any recommendations? As you can probably tell, I’m not that PC literate but I’m trying to make sure I spend my money well. Any advice gladly received! I really recommend waiting a bit as you will get a much better PC for your same budget. The 3080 is twice as fast as a 2080 at a similar price, the founders edition on Nvidia's website is £650. The 3070 is rumoured to be as fast as an 2080 ti (a £1200 card) within a 2070 price rang. Wanted to get a 3080 myself but all the stock has been bough up mainly by bots to sell on. Reading won't be no chance of getting hold of one till 2021. The 2070 and 2080 prices will also shoot down in price when the 3080 and 3070 are freely available, so unless you are desperate for a PC right now it is in your best interest to wait a bit. Also the new Ryzen 3 5000 CPU's are released on the 5th November and will be faster than current Intel CPU's for gaming. I have a 12 core Ryzen 9 3900x, bit of overkill but I love it. In your circumstances a PC build with a RTX 3070 and a Ryzen 7 5800x will be a seriously good gaming PC for an absolutely amazing price. I'm a complete novice when it comes to PC language and features but as far as playing a game smoothly and effortlessly, which element is more important, the graphics card or the processor or do you need a certain level of processor to handle a certain level of graphics card? I've got a decent Samsung Monitor that I plug my work laptop into via HDMI to give me a home office, I'm guessing I could just get a tower with some of the features you mentioned above and I'd be good to go? I can run this equipment through by business so can afford to spend a little bit so any recommendations on units would be really helpful. andersnm what setup have you got for using the designer? Do you feel the designer operates smoothly on your system? my laptop constantly gets very hot and slow when I'm using the designer which is frustrating |
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Post by andersnm on Oct 12, 2020 16:26:15 GMT
I really recommend waiting a bit as you will get a much better PC for your same budget. The 3080 is twice as fast as a 2080 at a similar price, the founders edition on Nvidia's website is £650. The 3070 is rumoured to be as fast as an 2080 ti (a £1200 card) within a 2070 price rang. Wanted to get a 3080 myself but all the stock has been bough up mainly by bots to sell on. Reading won't be no chance of getting hold of one till 2021. The 2070 and 2080 prices will also shoot down in price when the 3080 and 3070 are freely available, so unless you are desperate for a PC right now it is in your best interest to wait a bit. Also the new Ryzen 3 5000 CPU's are released on the 5th November and will be faster than current Intel CPU's for gaming. I have a 12 core Ryzen 9 3900x, bit of overkill but I love it. In your circumstances a PC build with a RTX 3070 and a Ryzen 7 5800x will be a seriously good gaming PC for an absolutely amazing price. I'm a complete novice when it comes to PC language and features but as far as playing a game smoothly and effortlessly, which element is more important, the graphics card or the processor or do you need a certain level of processor to handle a certain level of graphics card? I've got a decent Samsung Monitor that I plug my work laptop into via HDMI to give me a home office, I'm guessing I could just get a tower with some of the features you mentioned above and I'd be good to go? I can run this equipment through by business so can afford to spend a little bit so any recommendations on units would be really helpful. andersnm what setup have you got for using the designer? Do you feel the designer operates smoothly on your system? my laptop constantly gets very hot and slow when I'm using the designer which is frustrating Enough RAM is important in my experience - at least when working in the designer. Also a good SSD disc is much faster than older harddiscs. But I kind of buy pre-build. I do not think a massive graphic card is super important for this game. Other games are much more graphic intense as I see it. So I would recommend at least 32 GB RAM, a solid CPU etc. As for graphic card - RTX 3080 is affordable in Norway right now, and I would choose one of those (I have RTX 2070 SUPER, and you get ca. 60% FPS increase with a 3080 as far as I can see compared to my card) - but for me, this is more for playing games and not work in the designer. Workload in the designer is more a RAM and CPU question. I have no problem working in the designer with my computer, 32 GB RAM, Intel i7 9700F. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 12, 2020 16:32:43 GMT
I'm a complete novice when it comes to PC language and features but as far as playing a game smoothly and effortlessly, which element is more important, the graphics card or the processor or do you need a certain level of processor to handle a certain level of graphics card? I've got a decent Samsung Monitor that I plug my work laptop into via HDMI to give me a home office, I'm guessing I could just get a tower with some of the features you mentioned above and I'd be good to go? I can run this equipment through by business so can afford to spend a little bit so any recommendations on units would be really helpful. andersnm what setup have you got for using the designer? Do you feel the designer operates smoothly on your system? my laptop constantly gets very hot and slow when I'm using the designer which is frustrating Enough RAM is important in my experience - at least when working in the designer. Also a good SSD disc is much faster than older harddiscs. But I kind of buy pre-build. I do not think a massive graphic card is super important for this game. Other games are much more graphic intense as I see it. So I would recommend at least 32 GB RAM, a solid CPU etc. As for graphic card - RTX 3080 is affordable in Norway right now, and I would choose one of those (I have RTX 2070 SUPER, and you get ca. 60% FPS increase with a 3080 as far as I can see compared to my card) - but for me, this is more for playing games and not work in the designer. Workload in the designer is more a RAM and CPU question. I have no problem working in the designer with my computer, 32 GB RAM, Intel i7 9700F. Cheers Anders, I’m looking at some sites that do custom build as I can pick and choose without too much hands on work. I understand the pecking order with intel processors but I see AMD Ryzen have a processor called thread ripper that says 24, 32 or 64 core, is that way more than the intel? I’m a complete novice at this! |
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Post by andersnm on Oct 12, 2020 16:39:56 GMT
Enough RAM is important in my experience - at least when working in the designer. Also a good SSD disc is much faster than older harddiscs. But I kind of buy pre-build. I do not think a massive graphic card is super important for this game. Other games are much more graphic intense as I see it. So I would recommend at least 32 GB RAM, a solid CPU etc. As for graphic card - RTX 3080 is affordable in Norway right now, and I would choose one of those (I have RTX 2070 SUPER, and you get ca. 60% FPS increase with a 3080 as far as I can see compared to my card) - but for me, this is more for playing games and not work in the designer. Workload in the designer is more a RAM and CPU question. I have no problem working in the designer with my computer, 32 GB RAM, Intel i7 9700F. Cheers Anders, I’m looking at some sites that do custom build as I can pick and choose without too much hands on work. I understand the pecking order with intel processors but I see AMD Ryzen have a processor called thread ripper that says 24, 32 or 64 core, is that way more than the intel? I’m a complete novice at this! I was much more into the different CPU's a decade ago to be honest. The same with different type of RAM etc. You also need a motherboard that is compatible with the CPU, and I have not looked into this - as I said - I buy pre-build these days that gets me good fit for a good price. I can then adjust the pre-build, so I get the SSD disc size I want, the RAM I need etc. Quality in RAM is also different - and good RAM is key for me. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 12, 2020 16:45:10 GMT
Does this seem like a decent setup?  |
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Post by hammers1man on Oct 12, 2020 16:56:30 GMT
Does this seem like a decent setup? What resolution is your monitor Paddy? |
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Post by hammers1man on Oct 12, 2020 17:02:14 GMT
I don't think this game even uses 8 gig of ram. 16 gig of ram is good for most games apart from Microsoft Flight Simulator . I bought 32 gig of corsair vengeance 3200 Mhz Ram as was getting a bit greedy. Not sure you would need 64 gig.
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 12, 2020 17:22:51 GMT
I don't think this game even uses 8 gig of ram. 16 gig of ram is good for most games apart from Microsoft Flight Simulator . I bought 32 gig of corsair vengeance 3200 Mhz Ram as was getting a bit greedy. Not sure you would need 64 gig. Exactly why I asked! It’s a 4K 32 inch samsung monitor but not sure the exact technical outputs |
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Post by hammers1man on Oct 12, 2020 17:29:51 GMT
I don't think this game even uses 8 gig of ram. 16 gig of ram is good for most games apart from Microsoft Flight Simulator . I bought 32 gig of corsair vengeance 3200 Mhz Ram as was getting a bit greedy. Not sure you would need 64 gig. Exactly why I asked! It’s a 4K 32 inch samsung monitor but not sure the exact technical outputs That RTX 3080 is a beast and will run 4K really well. This game over 100 fps I reckon gonna get one myself when they are in stock. That CPU seems really expensive to me, maybe have a look at the Intel i7 10700K which is the fastest gaming CPU at the moment or wait for the 12 core Ryzen Zen 3 5900x which is supposed to be a great gaming CPU. |
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 12, 2020 17:41:46 GMT
Exactly why I asked! It’s a 4K 32 inch samsung monitor but not sure the exact technical outputs That RTX 3080 is a beast and will run 4K really well. This game over 100 fps I reckon gonna get one myself when they are in stock. That CPU seems really expensive to me, maybe have a look at the Intel i7 10700K which is the fastest gaming CPU at the moment or wait for the 12 core Ryzen Zen 3 5900x which is supposed to be a great gaming CPU. Thanks Paul, I did a lot of upgrades cooling with that price as thought it might be good to future proof the setup, I’m definitely going to go for the 3080 as it might be that I end up playing my rounds on this if it’s much better than PS4 |
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Post by hammers1man on Oct 12, 2020 17:47:57 GMT
That RTX 3080 is a beast and will run 4K really well. This game over 100 fps I reckon gonna get one myself when they are in stock. That CPU seems really expensive to me, maybe have a look at the Intel i7 10700K which is the fastest gaming CPU at the moment or wait for the 12 core Ryzen Zen 3 5900x which is supposed to be a great gaming CPU. Thanks Paul, I did a lot of upgrades cooling with that price as thought it might be good to future proof the setup, I’m definitely going to go for the 3080 as it might be that I end up playing my rounds on this if it’s much better than PS4 You might get lucky buying a pre build for actually getting an RTX 3080. I don't think I have any chance of finding one in stock this year. |
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